Post by RockHard on Feb 10, 2016 14:25:34 GMT -5
One of my extended remix custom brickwalled treats for the louder is better fans.
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My tone balanced only remaster for the louder sux crowd. Which sounds better?
The comment box is just below so chime in with your vote.
The comment box is just below so chime in with your vote.
Man, there's such a heated debate over the loudness wars, against & for it to a degree of getting obnoxiously hostile about it. My opinion is each has a place & it's like taste in food, some like it bland, others, extra spicy.
If you're into classical or more subtle music or lucky enough to have high powered audio like 200 watts p/ch or more, high dynamic range is likely better on equipment of that caliber but rock is generally pretty aggressive stuff meant to be brash & skillful brickwalling can often best express the energy of it.
It's like the difference of going to an arena rock concert or an Austin city limits concert. The rock concert with audio of a nuclear blast gets everyone on their feet gyrating wildly, the other with more natural audio, everyone is pretty sedate.
At home I don't often blast my music, it's mostly in the background for atmosphere & at those levels, high dynamic range doesn't cut it 'cuz the softer passages barely if at all get heard where as a brickwalled production you hear it all, even the softest parts.
There are some great sounding brickwalled productions & some just total garbage. There's an art to getting it sounding good without pushing it to teeth clenching distortion.
Phil Spector got famous & pretty wealthy for his brickwalling talent back in the 60's & I believe I've advanced it a step further in my opinion.
I'm guessing dynamic range purists will likely say its the depth perception they prefer. I've done remasters of most of my collection in that style & a foobar test will reveal how much dynamics I'm clipping off on my brickwalled reworks from the original but with my style of brickwalling, somehow I must be sonicly cheating & overcoming the normal expectations 'cuz they have more body, better imaging & stunning depth compared to the originals by my ears & most everyone that compares my more aggressive reworks say they never heard audio as good & prefer them over my less tampered with regular remasters, a few don't so it's a matter of taste.
I'm thinking most people have pretty near the same spectrum range of hearing but it may be possible there's a substantial gap in the ability to discern dynamics? Sorta like some people are color blind but see just as good as anyone else. That's a good question to ponder.
There's no right or wrong on this, It all boils down to what your psyche tells you sounds best so screw the arguments, it's a pointless waste of energy to argue about it!
For me, dynamic range has little relevance in my listening enjoyment. I'm a fan of louder is better & if my station is active here at the bottom of this page, have a listen, there's hardly any stations that have audio as good as I'm crankin' out using my custom remasters that are mostly brickwalled copies.
Members curious enough to do some comparing can rummage thru my entire collection from my stream player & hear my custom remasters side by side starting from original quality with only tone sculptured that evolve into several sonic grades of progressively more aggressive resculptures, all can be heard on demand if you're curious enough to dive in to compare for yourself. I'm pretty confident you'll be surprised with some unexpected treats!
Does anyone remember the stereos from the 60's & 70's that had the loudness button on it? That feature did wonders for low volume listening. A big mistake to be done away with & needs to be resurrected. Might be a coincidence about the time that feature faded away, brickwalling started to get more popular?
If you're a winamp user, there's a dsp plugin for it that'll do the same thing as the old stereo's with the loudness button & it works great & called loudmax dsp you can find on winamp's heritage plugin page..
If you're into classical or more subtle music or lucky enough to have high powered audio like 200 watts p/ch or more, high dynamic range is likely better on equipment of that caliber but rock is generally pretty aggressive stuff meant to be brash & skillful brickwalling can often best express the energy of it.
It's like the difference of going to an arena rock concert or an Austin city limits concert. The rock concert with audio of a nuclear blast gets everyone on their feet gyrating wildly, the other with more natural audio, everyone is pretty sedate.
At home I don't often blast my music, it's mostly in the background for atmosphere & at those levels, high dynamic range doesn't cut it 'cuz the softer passages barely if at all get heard where as a brickwalled production you hear it all, even the softest parts.
There are some great sounding brickwalled productions & some just total garbage. There's an art to getting it sounding good without pushing it to teeth clenching distortion.
Phil Spector got famous & pretty wealthy for his brickwalling talent back in the 60's & I believe I've advanced it a step further in my opinion.
I'm guessing dynamic range purists will likely say its the depth perception they prefer. I've done remasters of most of my collection in that style & a foobar test will reveal how much dynamics I'm clipping off on my brickwalled reworks from the original but with my style of brickwalling, somehow I must be sonicly cheating & overcoming the normal expectations 'cuz they have more body, better imaging & stunning depth compared to the originals by my ears & most everyone that compares my more aggressive reworks say they never heard audio as good & prefer them over my less tampered with regular remasters, a few don't so it's a matter of taste.
I'm thinking most people have pretty near the same spectrum range of hearing but it may be possible there's a substantial gap in the ability to discern dynamics? Sorta like some people are color blind but see just as good as anyone else. That's a good question to ponder.
There's no right or wrong on this, It all boils down to what your psyche tells you sounds best so screw the arguments, it's a pointless waste of energy to argue about it!
For me, dynamic range has little relevance in my listening enjoyment. I'm a fan of louder is better & if my station is active here at the bottom of this page, have a listen, there's hardly any stations that have audio as good as I'm crankin' out using my custom remasters that are mostly brickwalled copies.
Members curious enough to do some comparing can rummage thru my entire collection from my stream player & hear my custom remasters side by side starting from original quality with only tone sculptured that evolve into several sonic grades of progressively more aggressive resculptures, all can be heard on demand if you're curious enough to dive in to compare for yourself. I'm pretty confident you'll be surprised with some unexpected treats!
Does anyone remember the stereos from the 60's & 70's that had the loudness button on it? That feature did wonders for low volume listening. A big mistake to be done away with & needs to be resurrected. Might be a coincidence about the time that feature faded away, brickwalling started to get more popular?
If you're a winamp user, there's a dsp plugin for it that'll do the same thing as the old stereo's with the loudness button & it works great & called loudmax dsp you can find on winamp's heritage plugin page..
